RE>>ASSY: Gold-to-Gold Soldering 10/3/96 Dave, Good description. You're right that this is a great topic for metallurgists to discuss! I'd like to add a few things here. While the traditional rule of thumb is that 4 wt % of gold is the embrittlement point, there are instances where concentrations as low as ~1 w/o can create problems in solder joints. Keep in mind that the former value was obtained on bulk Izod impact samples, which led to the solder joint recommendation from years ago. I've personally seen huge differences in solder joint integrity because of this embrittlement phenomenon with fairly low amounts of gold in them, including some joints which pretty much disintegrated when a little stress was applied to them. I seem to recall some work out of MCC many years ago (Colin McKay?) which suggested that values even lower than 1 w/o can cause problems. The problem isn't really *how* much gold you have in the joint, but rather *where* the gold/tin intermetallics are, as you point out. Solder joint design plays an important role here. Gold is fairly insoluble in tin and lead, I believe. I seem to recall numbers of 0.3 wt percent or so. This suggests that simply running your assembly process longer and hotter probably won't make any difference in terms of embrittlement, since it'll basically all precipitate out anyway. It's possible that doing this will redistribute the IMCs to more benign areas, though I'd guess that design would drive this if true. The grainy appearance is most likely the intermetallic compounds orienting themselves to "poke" out of the solder. Should be very visible in microsections. Paul Vianco from Sandia recently published an outstanding paper on this in the Journal of SMT (April 1994), "Embrittlement of Surface Mount Solder Joints by Hot-Dipped, Gold-Plated Leads". In this work, he describes the need to *triple dip* one particular gold-plated device in molten solder to eliminate this problem. Greg Bartlett Mercury Computer Systems Chelmsford, MA [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------- Date: 10/2/96 12:54 PM To: Greg Bartlett From: ddhillma Hi Greg - Oh boy, did you ask a question that will have the TechNet hopping for awhile!!! When you have gold finished components & gold plated PCBs and solder them using 63/37 you run the risk of having gold embrittlement. Gold embrittlement is one of those topics that metallurgists and material engineers love to discuss because: (a) it is a very well documented phenomena, (b) gold-tin intermetallics are interesting to look at. A couple general rules of thumb to use: a) Is there enough solder volume for the gold to diffusive into? The answer to this question is almost always yes. The published literature consensus is that gold embrittlement occurs at/around 4 wt.%. b) Is the soldering operation long enough and hot enough to allow #1 to occur? This is the question that is the problem. Many times the soldering process is too short to allow the gold to totally diffuse into the solder thus leaving a thin, heavy concentration of gold-tin intermetallic where cracks will originate. I don't have any experience with using a different alloy selection to avoid the problems but hopefully some of the other TechNetters will have some good suggestions. The grainy appearance of your solder joints may be the gold-tin intermetallic particles. A good paper to read on the subject is: "The Effect of Gold on the Reliability of Solder Joints", Dr. Judy Glazer, 1991 Surface Mount International Conference proceedings. Good Luck. Dave Hillman Rockwell Collins [log in to unmask] ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: ASSY: Gold-to-Gold Soldering Author: [log in to unmask] at ccmgw1 Date: 9/30/96 9:12 PM Does anyone have experience soldering gold-plated SMT components to gold-plated PCB's using a eutectic (Sn63/Pb37) solder? The solder joints exhibit a dull, grainy appearance. Although I know that longer liquidus dwell times and a maximum reflow temperature of 220 C are typically recommended when soldering to gold, will other solder alloys perform better (i.e,, Indium alloys)? Thanks in advance, Greg Kilinski Acuson Corp. 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